flounder9
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this guy does not answer questions, or bring anything to the table except BS. he's just a mouth piece for the shooting pens...
Public hearing on changing deer-farm management is Tuesday 10/15 in Raleigh
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this guy does not answer questions, or bring anything to the table except BS. he's just a mouth piece for the shooting pens...
flounder9
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Friday, October 17, 2014
Missouri Final action on Orders of Rule making Breeders and Big Game Hunting Preserves
http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2014/10/missouri-final-action-on-orders-of-rule.html
Missouri Final action on Orders of Rule making Breeders and Big Game Hunting Preserves
http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2014/10/missouri-final-action-on-orders-of-rule.html
flounder9
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*** First Live Test for Chronic Wasting Disease ***
Last Modified: Jan 30, 2014
NWRC researchers and partners recently completed their third year of evaluating and validating the first live rectal-tissue biopsy method for detecting chronic wasting disease (CWD) in captive and wild elk. To date, researchers have collected over 1,500 biopsies from captive elk in Colorado and used the technique to find 15 elk that were positive for CWD. As compared to proven post-mortem diagnostic tests, this live test appears to be nearly as accurate.
“The key advantage to the rectal biopsy test is that it can be performed on live animals. Until now, there was no practical live test for CWD in elk,” said NWRC's Dr. Kurt VerCauteren. “With this technique we can detect CWD in animals not showing any signs of the disease and, thus, remove them so they are not left to infect other individuals and further contaminate the environment.”
The research is a collaborative effort between APHIS' WS and Veterinary Services programs, the Agricultural Research Service, and the Colorado State University Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory within the College of Veterinary Medicine and Biomedical Sciences. The majority of the research was conducted on the Velvet Ridge Elk Ranch, owned by Dennis and Stephanie White, near Fort Collins, Colorado. In 2002, an elk on the ranch was confirmed to have CWD and since that time the Whites have worked closely with NWRC and other collaborators to learn more about CWD and to develop methods to manage it in captive and wild settings.
“The use of this new live test in the initial screening, surveillance and monitoring of CWD will greatly aid in the management and control of the disease in the wild, as well as in captive settings,” said VerCauteren. More studies are needed before the live rectal test can be used on a large scale. For more information, please contact nwrc@aphis.usda.gov.
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/wps/porta...DJ0MjDzd3V2dDDz93HwCzL29jAwMTfQLsh0VAXWczqE!/
Monday, May 05, 2014
cwd tse prion testing PMCA , IHC, tonsil, rectal, biopsy ???
http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2014/05/cwd-tse-prion-testing-pmca-ihc-tonsil.html
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Wednesday, September 17, 2014
Cost benefit analysis of the development and use of ante-mortem tests for transmissible spongiform encephalopathies
http://transmissiblespongiformencep.../09/cost-benefit-analysis-of-development.html
From: John R Fischer
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 12:03 PM
To: Terry S. Singeltary Sr.
Cc: Jeanenne Brewton
Subject: RE: live rectal-tissue biopsy method for detecting chronic wasting disease (CWD)
Hi Terry
I am not aware of the rectal biopsy CWD test being validated for official use. To my knowledge, it’s still being researched and there have been some peer-reviewed publications.
Best regards,
John
From: Terry S. Singeltary Sr. [mailto:flounder9@verizon.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 12:51 PM
To: John R Fischer
Subject: live rectal-tissue biopsy method for detecting chronic wasting disease (CWD)
Hello Dr. Fischer et al,
has the live rectal-tissue biopsy method for detecting chronic wasting disease (CWD) been validated for use in _some_ testing for captive herds?
I thought it had been.
can you please tell me, where the live rectal-tissue biopsy method for detecting chronic wasting disease (CWD) has been used to date to test for cwd in captive cervids, if in fact is has been.
any links would help too.
thank you,
kind regards, terry
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NWRC researchers and partners recently completed their third year of evaluating and validating the first live rectal-tissue biopsy method for detecting chronic wasting disease (CWD) in captive and wild elk. To date, researchers have collected over 1,500 biopsies from captive elk in Colorado and used the technique to find 15 elk that were positive for CWD. As compared to proven post-mortem diagnostic tests, this live test appears to be nearly as accurate.
“The key advantage to the rectal biopsy test is that it can be performed on live animals. Until now, there was no practical live test for CWD in elk,” said NWRC's Dr. Kurt VerCauteren. “With this technique we can detect CWD in animals not showing any signs of the disease and, thus, remove them so they are not left to infect other individuals and further contaminate the environment.”
The research is a collaborative effort between APHIS' WS and Veterinary Services programs, the Agricultural Research Service, and the Colorado State University Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory within the College of Veterinary Medicine and Biomedical Sciences. The majority of the research was conducted on the Velvet Ridge Elk Ranch, owned by Dennis and Stephanie White, near Fort Collins, Colorado. In 2002, an elk on the ranch was confirmed to have CWD and since that time the Whites have worked closely with NWRC and other collaborators to learn more about CWD and to develop methods to manage it in captive and wild settings.
“The use of this new live test in the initial screening, surveillance and monitoring of CWD will greatly aid in the management and control of the disease in the wild, as well as in captive settings,” said VerCauteren. More studies are needed before the live rectal test can be used on a large scale. For more information, please contact nwrc@aphis.usda.gov.
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/wps/porta...DJ0MjDzd3V2dDDz93HwCzL29jAwMTfQLsh0VAXWczqE!/
Monday, May 05, 2014
cwd tse prion testing PMCA , IHC, tonsil, rectal, biopsy ???
http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2014/05/cwd-tse-prion-testing-pmca-ihc-tonsil.html
snip...
Wednesday, September 17, 2014
Cost benefit analysis of the development and use of ante-mortem tests for transmissible spongiform encephalopathies
http://transmissiblespongiformencep.../09/cost-benefit-analysis-of-development.html
From: John R Fischer
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 12:03 PM
To: Terry S. Singeltary Sr.
Cc: Jeanenne Brewton
Subject: RE: live rectal-tissue biopsy method for detecting chronic wasting disease (CWD)
Hi Terry
I am not aware of the rectal biopsy CWD test being validated for official use. To my knowledge, it’s still being researched and there have been some peer-reviewed publications.
Best regards,
John
From: Terry S. Singeltary Sr. [mailto:flounder9@verizon.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 12:51 PM
To: John R Fischer
Subject: live rectal-tissue biopsy method for detecting chronic wasting disease (CWD)
Hello Dr. Fischer et al,
has the live rectal-tissue biopsy method for detecting chronic wasting disease (CWD) been validated for use in _some_ testing for captive herds?
I thought it had been.
can you please tell me, where the live rectal-tissue biopsy method for detecting chronic wasting disease (CWD) has been used to date to test for cwd in captive cervids, if in fact is has been.
any links would help too.
thank you,
kind regards, terry
BR549
Twelve Pointer
Wildpro - "Testing" does not mean "Accepted". Which is my point exactly, you continue to post "Misleading" comments that are construed to imply to the uninformed that live testing is an approved method of CWD testing. That is flatout LIE.
influence
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Deer Pen operators across the country have already done the damage! In 2001 the USDA Secretary Declared a Declaration of Emergency when CWD was discovered in only a hand full of states. Now with CWD in 22 states is the Declaration of Emergency off the charts! Deer Pen people who are considered the Red Headed Stepchild of the USDA. Deer Pen Folk are just one more Agricultural Failure! Look what happen 60 years ago when the Surgeon General announced that smoking Tobacco could cause cancer! Well we don't have another 60 years to deal with Deer Pen issues! The Healthy Wildlife Economies all across America are put at Risk so Deer Pen people can try and Swindle and Suck another Ignorant person into the Deer Pen Scam!. Since this whole issue is nothing but a huge Ponzi Scheme! Where's the money to be made! Most have said their expectations have really fallen short of what they were told in the beginning!
Many of the Deer Pen people can't even sell their shooter bucks! They call another idiot in another state and say! Hey come and get these Deer out of my Pen because I had a deal working and it fell through! So the other Deer Pen idiot will go out of state and get these Pen Deer! While at the other Deer Pen the idiot will say you can just pay me later! Pay me later means if he pays fine if not I just got rid of a bunch of worthless Pen raised Deer because nobody wants them! Deer Pen people are constantly Running a Scam on other Deer Pen Idiots!
It takes a real low life to put Captive Wildlife behind a Fence! Deer Pen individuals across America and Canada can't even Justify their Mere Existence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Many of the Deer Pen people can't even sell their shooter bucks! They call another idiot in another state and say! Hey come and get these Deer out of my Pen because I had a deal working and it fell through! So the other Deer Pen idiot will go out of state and get these Pen Deer! While at the other Deer Pen the idiot will say you can just pay me later! Pay me later means if he pays fine if not I just got rid of a bunch of worthless Pen raised Deer because nobody wants them! Deer Pen people are constantly Running a Scam on other Deer Pen Idiots!
It takes a real low life to put Captive Wildlife behind a Fence! Deer Pen individuals across America and Canada can't even Justify their Mere Existence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wildlifepro51
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And this from a guy that is a high school drop out with no formal education and no background in animal health or ruminant science!! And can only blog cut and paste and have been discredited by academic or research institutions for his rants. Talk about a mouth piece that wont answer questions, Try running that mouth in your state of texas to farmers and ranchers you bash out public one time instead of hiding in your house and see how long you last. we have 300,000,000 people in the country and we will always have these screaming liberal types.
Wildlifepro51
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Again you try and deflect, take time and do your own homework and open up your straight line way of thinking. Each test via nasal, tonsil, blood, rectal has its own level of accuracy and and all avenues of research are being persued to help deal with the symptom. There is no lie . Your just to hard headed to understand and try to put your own spin on a subject, That your job.. Why are you too lazy to take time and contact USDA in CO directly and the CODOW directly to get the answer on their live testing program and results. Do you not want a rapid live test to be available??
Wildlifepro51
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Ok I see you from your delivery and wording the biased tone and intentional prodding. Then tell us this .Why is it ok for state wildlife agencies to trap and move or sell deer and elk to other states and not be help accountable or help to USDA protocals as private land owners do?? Please take a moment answer that for us . Next if this was as bad as you try and say it is why did SD game and fish in conjunction with US fish and wildlife just do a second release of elk from wind cave park where the herd that was held captive by the government with a 40% infection rate of cwd out into the free range? Can you please answer that and does that make any sense?
BR549
Twelve Pointer
Wildlifepro - It's time for you to be honest and admit NO Live Test is approved by USDA for live CWD testing. If it were I'm sure you would be on that bandwagon selling that too! You talk about Live Testing in a manner that it's being used rather than lethal means. That is a False association.
Wildlifepro51
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Again your attempt at trying to bait and then deflect and not do any work yourself to review information on a subject you have no experience in shows an act of desperation in your delivery. You want answers but your too lazy to check it out for yourself . Your agenda is not working here and people with common sense see that.I want the public to start thinking for themselves and asking qualified people that work in the field of cervid research to get the answers and not rely on liberal news paper clippings.
Wildlifepro51
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Even singleterry with all his radical nonsense posted this below. Since Jan 2014 three more test that have been undergoing research were put into effect in April by the USDA in Co
*** First Live Test for Chronic Wasting Disease ***
Last Modified: Jan 30, 2014
NWRC researchers and partners recently completed their third year of evaluating and validating the first live rectal-tissue biopsy method for detecting chronic wasting disease (CWD) in captive and wild elk. To date, researchers have collected over 1,500 biopsies from captive elk in Colorado and used the technique to find 15 elk that were positive for CWD. As compared to proven post-mortem diagnostic tests, this live test appears to be nearly as accurate.
“The key advantage to the rectal biopsy test is that it can be performed on live animals. Until now, there was no practical live test for CWD in elk,” said NWRC's Dr. Kurt VerCauteren. “With this technique we can detect CWD in animals not showing any signs of the disease and, thus, remove them so they are not left to infect other individuals and further contaminate the environment.”
The research is a collaborative effort between APHIS' WS and Veterinary Services programs, the Agricultural Research Service, and the Colorado State University Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory within the College of Veterinary Medicine and Biomedical Sciences. The majority of the research was conducted on the Velvet Ridge Elk Ranch, owned by Dennis and Stephanie White, near Fort Collins, Colorado. In 2002, an elk on the ranch was confirmed to have CWD and since that time the Whites have worked closely with NWRC and other collaborators to learn more about CWD and to develop methods to manage it in captive and wild settings.
“The use of this new live test in the initial screening, surveillance and monitoring of CWD will greatly aid in the management and control of the disease in the wild, as well as in captive settings,” said VerCauteren. More studies are needed before the live rectal test can be used on a large scale. For more information, please contact nwrc@aphis.usda.gov.
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*** First Live Test for Chronic Wasting Disease ***
Last Modified: Jan 30, 2014
NWRC researchers and partners recently completed their third year of evaluating and validating the first live rectal-tissue biopsy method for detecting chronic wasting disease (CWD) in captive and wild elk. To date, researchers have collected over 1,500 biopsies from captive elk in Colorado and used the technique to find 15 elk that were positive for CWD. As compared to proven post-mortem diagnostic tests, this live test appears to be nearly as accurate.
“The key advantage to the rectal biopsy test is that it can be performed on live animals. Until now, there was no practical live test for CWD in elk,” said NWRC's Dr. Kurt VerCauteren. “With this technique we can detect CWD in animals not showing any signs of the disease and, thus, remove them so they are not left to infect other individuals and further contaminate the environment.”
The research is a collaborative effort between APHIS' WS and Veterinary Services programs, the Agricultural Research Service, and the Colorado State University Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory within the College of Veterinary Medicine and Biomedical Sciences. The majority of the research was conducted on the Velvet Ridge Elk Ranch, owned by Dennis and Stephanie White, near Fort Collins, Colorado. In 2002, an elk on the ranch was confirmed to have CWD and since that time the Whites have worked closely with NWRC and other collaborators to learn more about CWD and to develop methods to manage it in captive and wild settings.
“The use of this new live test in the initial screening, surveillance and monitoring of CWD will greatly aid in the management and control of the disease in the wild, as well as in captive settings,” said VerCauteren. More studies are needed before the live rectal test can be used on a large scale. For more information, please contact nwrc@aphis.usda.gov.
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BR549
Twelve Pointer
Of course it a mute point since you can NOT sell Whitetail Deer or Elk in North Carolina!!
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BR549
Twelve Pointer
This is what Rep. West & Murry allowed to "Reach" the "Checkout Counter"!!!!
The House Appropriations Subcommittee on Natural Resources chairs are Rep Tom Murry and Rep Roger West.
http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2013/B...Rxf-33-v-5.pdf(page 140, line 28)
Rep. Roger Wests "First Draft" of the well known "Tom Smith Bill"!!!!
TRANSFER RESPONSIBILITY FOR DEER OVERSIGHT TO DACS
beginning on line 28 Page 140 of House Proposed Committee Substitute for Senate Bill 744
• The amended Article 49H is titled “Production, Sale, Transportation, and Licensing of Fallow Deer and Red Deer"
The amended language would cover ALL cervids, including native wild animals such as white-tailed deer and elk.
(Rep. Roger West and Rep. Tom Murray endorsed the sale of a "Public Trust Asset")!?!?!?!?!?
• Under the amended language, the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services (DACS) would regulate possession and transportation of white-tailed deer by hunters, including meat, hides, antlers, and mounts. This would also extend into the work of taxidermists. A hunter or taxidermist could be penalized up to $10,000 for violating rules adopted by DACS (current Wildlife penalty for unlawful possessing or transportation of a deer is $250.)
• The legislation would give the Commissioner of Agriculture emergency powers over wild cervid populations without any required consultation with the Wildlife Resources Commission. Under the proposed legislation, the Commissioner could take emergency actions to control wild deer populations to protect captive deer.
• The Commissioner of Agriculture appears to have the authority to delegate duties to employees of the Wildlife Resources Commission, including law enforcement personnel, that may seem expedient to carry out his duties and exercise his powers.
• None of the rulemaking or studies in the proposal require consultation with the Wildlife Resources Commission though it would seem necessary and beneficial given the potential impacts to wild deer populations and Wildlife Resources Commissions historical responsibilities associated with captive cervids.
• The “transfer” of deer oversight occurs before completing the study of the risks associated with the spread of Chronic Wasting Disease. Thus, DACs is assigned regulatory oversight and charged with development of regulations before they have completed the study.
• What happens on July 1, 2014 with regards to current licensees? Is it an unregulated activity except for importation until such time that DACs promulgates rules?
• There are 37 licensed deer farmers in North Carolina
• There are 268,000 licensed hunters in North Carolina
• Annual economic impact of deer hunting in North Carolina exceeds $350 million and supports 3580 jobs.
http://buckbreeders.com/articles/nc-budget-proposal-shift-deer-farming-oversight-finds-opposition
The House Appropriations Subcommittee on Natural Resources chairs are Rep Tom Murry and Rep Roger West.
http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2013/B...Rxf-33-v-5.pdf(page 140, line 28)
Rep. Roger Wests "First Draft" of the well known "Tom Smith Bill"!!!!
TRANSFER RESPONSIBILITY FOR DEER OVERSIGHT TO DACS
beginning on line 28 Page 140 of House Proposed Committee Substitute for Senate Bill 744
• The amended Article 49H is titled “Production, Sale, Transportation, and Licensing of Fallow Deer and Red Deer"
The amended language would cover ALL cervids, including native wild animals such as white-tailed deer and elk.
(Rep. Roger West and Rep. Tom Murray endorsed the sale of a "Public Trust Asset")!?!?!?!?!?
• Under the amended language, the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services (DACS) would regulate possession and transportation of white-tailed deer by hunters, including meat, hides, antlers, and mounts. This would also extend into the work of taxidermists. A hunter or taxidermist could be penalized up to $10,000 for violating rules adopted by DACS (current Wildlife penalty for unlawful possessing or transportation of a deer is $250.)
• The legislation would give the Commissioner of Agriculture emergency powers over wild cervid populations without any required consultation with the Wildlife Resources Commission. Under the proposed legislation, the Commissioner could take emergency actions to control wild deer populations to protect captive deer.
• The Commissioner of Agriculture appears to have the authority to delegate duties to employees of the Wildlife Resources Commission, including law enforcement personnel, that may seem expedient to carry out his duties and exercise his powers.
• None of the rulemaking or studies in the proposal require consultation with the Wildlife Resources Commission though it would seem necessary and beneficial given the potential impacts to wild deer populations and Wildlife Resources Commissions historical responsibilities associated with captive cervids.
• The “transfer” of deer oversight occurs before completing the study of the risks associated with the spread of Chronic Wasting Disease. Thus, DACs is assigned regulatory oversight and charged with development of regulations before they have completed the study.
• What happens on July 1, 2014 with regards to current licensees? Is it an unregulated activity except for importation until such time that DACs promulgates rules?
• There are 37 licensed deer farmers in North Carolina
• There are 268,000 licensed hunters in North Carolina
• Annual economic impact of deer hunting in North Carolina exceeds $350 million and supports 3580 jobs.
http://buckbreeders.com/articles/nc-budget-proposal-shift-deer-farming-oversight-finds-opposition
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BR549
Twelve Pointer
It's time to let Rep Roger West know our States Public Trust Assets are NOT FOR SALE!!!!
I guess the 1% can even buy VOTES!!
I guess the 1% can even buy VOTES!!
Wildlifepro51
Guest
Here is a simple question for you. and I would like a honest and complete answer. 2 questions 1,Do you want to help end cwd in this country. Yes or no. 2 do you want to see research being done to help combat cwd and are you in favor of live rapid testing?
BR549
Twelve Pointer
North Carolina's 260,000 Hunters want to know why and the HELL, Rep. Roger West would think our States Public Trust Assets are "FOR SALE"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Did you just ask a politician a question expecting a straight answer?
BR549
Twelve Pointer
No, but I damm sure did!!! This is total BS!!
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BR549
Twelve Pointer
This is ON BIG SCAM!!!
Wildlifepro51
Guest
You see catfisher, He was asked a very legitmate question and you see he did as we thought he would and avoid answering as he always does something of importance to all of us. Talk of BS there you have it.
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BR549
Twelve Pointer
North Carolina's 260,000 Hunters want to know why and the HELL, Rep. Roger West would think our States Public Trust Assets are "FOR SALE"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you not see the issue of elected officials (Rep. Roger West & Rep. Tom Murray) endorsing the illegal transfer of "Title" of a "Public Trust Asset"???
You should read the laws of North Carolina, its Public Trust Assets and The North Carolina State Constitution, you should share it with Rep West and Rep Murray as well as apparently they need an education on it.
Not to mention a better understanding of the oath they took to uphold the State Constitution!!!!
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influence
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Sec. 32. Exclusive emoluments.
No person or set of persons is entitled to exclusive or separate emoluments or privileges from the community but in consideration of public services. (For Sale or in form of Compensation)
http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/legislation/constitution/ncconstitution.html
Our North Carolina Wildlife aren't for sale! I strongly suggest ANY politician willing to do something like this is a complete sellout! He took a Oath to up Hold the North Carolina State Constitution! Not to sell out to Special Interest! This is a direct violation of the Public Trust in the State of North Carolina!
This shows us that these Politicians are so low they'd have to stand on a stepladder to look a snake in the eye! Suggest it's time for the North Carolina Attorney General get involved to jerk the chain on some of these Politicians. Otherwise I smell a big Lawsuit to protect our Public Trust and to remind the North Carolina Politicians that the Constitution stands! Or if given the chance to educate the Good Citizens of North Carolina through extended education by TV spots and other media about Deer Pen operations and their purpose! Probably take between 3 & 4 million in NC to be successful but it would be a lot of fun in the process! I know several groups that would probably give all the money! We could have enough support to get 60% of the vote to say No more Deer Pens because the people have spoken! No I'm not a Liberal just don't like Deer Pens never have Never will!!!
No person or set of persons is entitled to exclusive or separate emoluments or privileges from the community but in consideration of public services. (For Sale or in form of Compensation)
http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/legislation/constitution/ncconstitution.html
Our North Carolina Wildlife aren't for sale! I strongly suggest ANY politician willing to do something like this is a complete sellout! He took a Oath to up Hold the North Carolina State Constitution! Not to sell out to Special Interest! This is a direct violation of the Public Trust in the State of North Carolina!
This shows us that these Politicians are so low they'd have to stand on a stepladder to look a snake in the eye! Suggest it's time for the North Carolina Attorney General get involved to jerk the chain on some of these Politicians. Otherwise I smell a big Lawsuit to protect our Public Trust and to remind the North Carolina Politicians that the Constitution stands! Or if given the chance to educate the Good Citizens of North Carolina through extended education by TV spots and other media about Deer Pen operations and their purpose! Probably take between 3 & 4 million in NC to be successful but it would be a lot of fun in the process! I know several groups that would probably give all the money! We could have enough support to get 60% of the vote to say No more Deer Pens because the people have spoken! No I'm not a Liberal just don't like Deer Pens never have Never will!!!
Man, deer pens today fox pens tomorrow? There is no telling who you would crawl in bed with to sell you point would you?
influence
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Don't have to crawl in Bed with anybody! Don't like Deer Pens! Why would any man stoop so low to Shoot behind the Fence. It's Shooting definitely not Hunting! Guess it would be the only way some men could shoot a Deer is out of a Pen!
Like I told your buddy BR, all captive cervids aren't used for shooting. Far from it.
Wildlifepro51
Guest
Quick question new guy, If you don't think wildlife should be in pens and you use the word pen to be a negative overtone, Why is it ok for hunters to shoot PEN raised GameBirds for sport?? Game birds that have been raised in captivity and then sold and put in a field just before hunters arrive to shoot them.? Question two, Why are you not attacking state and federal governments that are selling and moving deer and elk across state lines and not following USDA protocol? Can you answer that for us? By the way you refer to OUR public trust, Your a florida resident.
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BR549
Twelve Pointer
Captive Cervids CAN NOT be USED for anything!! An individual can only be permitted to HOLD a captive cervide in a HUMANE way. It cannot be held for eternity, only temporarily.
Fish are the only public trust asset that can be held in captivity for eternity.
This is the law. Go back and look at the First Draft, a few tried to slide in the budget in exchange for campaign donations!! The first draft would have Illegally given Whitetail Deer & Elk ownership to a "Private Sole"!!
Let me simplify this...
If "Tom Smith" bought one acre of land, built a Grocery Store, then he makes substaintional Campain Donations which in exchange those same elected officials illegally provide "Free Inventory" from the States "Public Trust Resourse" to fully stock Tom's shelves!!!
This has been a SCAM from day one!!!
No example says it better!!
Fish are the only public trust asset that can be held in captivity for eternity.
This is the law. Go back and look at the First Draft, a few tried to slide in the budget in exchange for campaign donations!! The first draft would have Illegally given Whitetail Deer & Elk ownership to a "Private Sole"!!
Let me simplify this...
If "Tom Smith" bought one acre of land, built a Grocery Store, then he makes substaintional Campain Donations which in exchange those same elected officials illegally provide "Free Inventory" from the States "Public Trust Resourse" to fully stock Tom's shelves!!!
This has been a SCAM from day one!!!
No example says it better!!
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Wildlifepro51
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Nice pic by the way, Where are the ear tags at if they were in a licenced captive facility??, They look like good healthy deer on a private ranch. Lets see Antler velvet, Semen market, urine market, Antler sales for art, mounts and decorations, stocker bucks breeder bucks and breeder does. Down in your state of fla qdma senior board member Chris Asplundh has a hunting preserve or shooting pen as you call it, Have not seen you attack him? Is it double standards with that.He also owns a deer farm in PA. Double standards again I guess.
influence
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While we're on the subject of Grocery Stores! Food Lion back in the early 90's was dealt a major blow because of Corporate Greed to make a dime! Washing Fish, Meat, Chicken in a Bleach Solution to remove the Stench to extend the shelf life! Well Mr Smith was CEO of Food Lion then! Apparently it backfired on them. What a Pitiful decision to make a dime! End result decline in stock, Store Closures, and long time employees lost their Livelihood! Also National TV coverage of the Scam! Now it doesn't surprise me that he's in the Deer Pen business. Guess you can't take the spots off of a Leopard! Typical Deer Pen owner thinking! These kind of people only take short cuts in life! Ponzi Scheme
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