Ldsoldier
Old Mossy Horns
boatless, you forgot about in a freaking cooler because somebody got cheap and didn't want to have their meat deboned or the skull cleaned before they brought it home. I honestly think it'll come in that way before it does naturally.
Jon, I'm not gonna participate in back and forths about David Cobb or Gordon Myers. That's not my place and I won't get drawn into it. I have had conversations with members of the WRC, however. I will say that I honestly believe if they felt there was a live test that was equal or better than the current one they'd be using it. The USDA has not issued a certification for one yet that meets the criteria. It just hasn't. The problem is that even if the tests are "testing well", they have to be proven. You don't do that over just a year or two. Add to that what I said about the "one." If the test is 97% accurate, that leaves 3 out of every 100 that could possibly slip through. It only takes 1. Nothing's ever going to be 100%, but they owe it to us to be as thorough as they can. I've often said, and I still stand by it, the priorities of the management biologist should be in this order: 1) the good of the resource, 2) the stakeholders. That means putting the health of the deer herd in NC above the profits of some deer farmers. That's just a fact of life. If you disagree that's fine, but you won't convince me otherwise.
As far as other states not having massive die-offs, don't you think their wildlife agencies deserve at least some credit for being proactive and containing it there? Just a thought. As far as states "not conforming to their own standards" you keep insinuating that NC brought in deer. When has the state done this? Every example you've used has been the feds bringing them in on FEDERAL land. The state has no authority over federal land. The feds usually conform to the NCWRC wishes as a courtesy, but they can (and have) thumbed their nose at the state before as well. In the end the state can't stop the feds from doing anything they want to do on federal land. If you want to get mad at somebody there get mad at the USFWS or National Park Service, since they're the ones that have been guilty in your examples. You can't use the NPS as an example of hypocrisy in the NCWRC. That's about like saying you're yard is trashy because the neighbor 5 houses down doesn't mow his yard. It makes about that much sense.
Jon, I'm not gonna participate in back and forths about David Cobb or Gordon Myers. That's not my place and I won't get drawn into it. I have had conversations with members of the WRC, however. I will say that I honestly believe if they felt there was a live test that was equal or better than the current one they'd be using it. The USDA has not issued a certification for one yet that meets the criteria. It just hasn't. The problem is that even if the tests are "testing well", they have to be proven. You don't do that over just a year or two. Add to that what I said about the "one." If the test is 97% accurate, that leaves 3 out of every 100 that could possibly slip through. It only takes 1. Nothing's ever going to be 100%, but they owe it to us to be as thorough as they can. I've often said, and I still stand by it, the priorities of the management biologist should be in this order: 1) the good of the resource, 2) the stakeholders. That means putting the health of the deer herd in NC above the profits of some deer farmers. That's just a fact of life. If you disagree that's fine, but you won't convince me otherwise.
As far as other states not having massive die-offs, don't you think their wildlife agencies deserve at least some credit for being proactive and containing it there? Just a thought. As far as states "not conforming to their own standards" you keep insinuating that NC brought in deer. When has the state done this? Every example you've used has been the feds bringing them in on FEDERAL land. The state has no authority over federal land. The feds usually conform to the NCWRC wishes as a courtesy, but they can (and have) thumbed their nose at the state before as well. In the end the state can't stop the feds from doing anything they want to do on federal land. If you want to get mad at somebody there get mad at the USFWS or National Park Service, since they're the ones that have been guilty in your examples. You can't use the NPS as an example of hypocrisy in the NCWRC. That's about like saying you're yard is trashy because the neighbor 5 houses down doesn't mow his yard. It makes about that much sense.