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Should we ban that too! Banning hunting of any form is not the answer.
Agreed but this sounds like responsible houndsmen trying to head off a ban.
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Should we ban that too! Banning hunting of any form is not the answer.
Those 8' height requirements were A pain in Hoke and Scotland counties. Several spots I hunted where there weren't trees large enough to climb.
And when this bullet hits the ground in the next 30 or so yards, if it hits an object on the ground, can go in an any direction....that is where the danger lies with a centerfire. That bullet can and many times will continue traveling for considerable distance and the shooter is just hoping it dosen't go thru a house, a car, a kid playing in the yard. Be a terrible thing to kill someone....as Clint Eastwood said " take away all he has and ever will have"Geometry was my favorite subject in high school (although that was 30+ years ago). The 8 foot rule is from the ground to the lowest part of your body...most likely your feet. Add another 2 feet to allow for shooting rail, your rifle will be about 10' off the ground when you shoot. Lets assume your target is 3' off the ground at 100 yards out. Not to get too complicated but the bullet has already dropped from 10' to 3' within 100 yards or roughly 70 % of the total drop required to hit the ground. What makes you feel this "angle" will not intersect the ground within the next 30 or so yards?
There is a HUGE difference in firing a rifle from the ground than from an elevated vantage point
I wondered if anyone would pick up on that.........Scotty B did you have a problem with seven spot hunt club?....lol
All the 8ft rule will do is be able to give dog hunters tickets for using a rifle dog hunting.
All these rules mean nothing if not enforced.
There are a few spots in Halifax Co that will never be fixed unless they completely outlaw dog hunting and thats not happening.
Do you remember when a guy got shot with a rifle out there while dog hunting?I wondered if anyone would pick up on that.........
First off, if the people are hunting across the line from their side they are not trespassing until after the shot, being there when that happens is no different than poachers who hunt with hounds. They know when I'm there and when I'm not.
I do dog hunt and have hounds and I spend many hours training my hounds so I can control them reasonably well. I learned that respect goes a long way. I have no problem with written permission or unloaded guns. Laws have to be enforced and I know for a fact that road hunting especially with hounds can be dealt with, with laws that are on the books. I have seen it work in the county where I hunt. No, it's not perfect world. Some people will obey the law, some won't whether there is dog hunting or not.
Do you remember when a guy got shot with a rifle out there while dog hunting?
It wasnt good.....he lived but i dont know how.
And when this bullet hits the ground in the next 30 or so yards, if it hits an object on the ground, can go in an any direction....that is where the danger lies with a centerfire. That bullet can and many times will continue traveling for considerable distance and the shooter is just hoping it dosen't go thru a house, a car, a kid playing in the yard. Be a terrible thing to kill someone....as Clint Eastwood said " take away all he has and ever will have"
Hey, I agree with you. I'm all for safety and support shooting rifles from elevated stands. My point is that a rifle ball shot horizontal to the ground travels significantly further than one shot from 10' high at a target on the ground 100 yards away
,,,,,A guy was hunting some peanut fields adjacent to the swamp. He was more than 10' off the ground. He shot at some deer maybe 200 yards out and bullets commenced to flying over my head, .
I'm 99% Bowhunter, but Deer hunters need rifle hunters to keep herds in check and revenues for the NCWRC. I'd support a different season structure, but I think rifles provide more positive than negative.
Based off this logic, how far would the point of impact be if shooting from a height of 120"?Level ground
Rifle barrel 60" off the ground (shoulder height)
Deer 34" at top of the back, point of aim 28" (6" below back, vital area)
Distance to deer 100 yards
Bullet traveling on same path impacts the ground at approx. 218 yards.
I see no reason to have a height requirement. Should not be shooting toward anything you don't want to hit, whether your "x" feet off the ground and other unintended targets are 500+ yards away. Know your target and what is beyond, kind of sums that up.
Once I was hunting a swamp on the ground. A guy was hunting some peanut fields adjacent to the swamp. He was more than 10' off the ground. He shot at some deer maybe 200 yards out and bullets commenced to flying over my head, ricocheting off of trees 25 to 30 feet up. Bark was a flying. Glad I didn't climb a tree. I never hunted that spot again either. IMO, the height requirement is just another feel good law, "see we made it safer".
Now as a hunter if I'm hunting close to other people, or just in tight quarters period I hunt out of stands and take short distance shots, pretty much straight in to the ground.
Archery, y'all ever seen an arrow ricochet through the woods? I have that's a scary sight too!
There are counties in Va that have seasons without rifles. I and many more hunters/landowners in Bertie would support it. May not ever pass but I would support it in a heartbeat. I believe it would make the hunting better.
Ban dog hunting is what would make hunting better.
Ban dog hunting is what would make hunting better.